Re: [leafnode-list] Re: Please confirm your message

[Matthias Andree <ma@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

"clemens fischer" <ino-qc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

> Matthias Andree <ma@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>
>> Exim allows to forward mail with special prefix or suffix to a program,
>> that should get the job done, and the reverse path I'd have to code,
>> it'd be a program that speaks qmail-queue on the input side and calls
>> sendmail on the other side.
>
> you could also simply let qmail deliver every email to a special user
> (hint: look at extra.h in a pristine qmail-1.03, if at all
> neccessary) through this users regular ~/.qmail file.  then qmail
> forwards the email to the system running exim.  you could insert
> qconfirm into this .qmail to verify that users exist.  they would
> only have to do this once, of course.

The machine natively runs Exim. Either qmail yields to Exim's
domination, or there will be no qmail at all.

> calling sendmail from .qmail is also possible.
>
>> Would Mailman 2.1 or ezmlm or ezmlm-idx be preferred? Who maintains
>> ezmlm-idx nowadays?
>
> mailman is a python thing, so if you grog python, it should serve us
> fine.  personally i prefer plain exmlm over ezmlm-idx provided that
> the list is mirrored/saved some place.  leafnode is mirrored at
> gmane, so this is no problem, and gmane implemented searchable
> indices some time ago.  ezmlm is all automatic, and unreachable users
> receive a list with the message numbers they missed while
> off-the-planet.  there's a ezmlm get command to retrieve them.

Well, it should be possible to subscribe a local user to collect
archives should that be necessary. The itching question is, how well
does Mailman figure what address (on its list) it sent the mail to that
bounced, because we have some of these addresses that are no longer
collected (quota exceeded persistently), no longer existent, and to
enhance the administrator annoyance^Wexperience, no hint in the headers
allows to conclude who is the offender -- all it takes is an off-site
forward or two.

Would Mailman 2.1 VERP deal with that robustly? I don't like the
guess-who-it-is-from-the-bounce-message of Mailman 1.1/2.0, it won't
help if the bouncing address is a forward destination.

> ezmlm is a concerted effort, i don't know right now if there is a
> central maintainer or who this would be, but the fact that spammers
> seem to go more and more for qmail/ezmlm speaks for the quality of
> the software, doesn't it?  ;)

Good they waste so much traffic using qmail.

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Matthias Andree
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