[leafnode-list] Re: strange problem

[Nick C <chakynet@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 18.03.2007 02:45, Matthias Andree wrote:

>> > Try "texpire -fvvvr".

>> Ok, this helped only once after I applied it. After that, everything
>> returned to this strange problem. fetchnews fetch artices, but they do not
>> show up in Thunderbird. I have even tried deleting news account from
>> Thunderbird and also directory News from $HOME/.thunderbird/. First time
>> fetch OK, but after every 30 min (that fetchnews from crontab runs), nothing.

> Hm. I have zero idea what might be causing this, you haven't found
> relevant logs (check syslog configuration to make sure you're not
> discarding anything), ...

I have checked all my logging inside /var/log/news/ directory, but there is
nothing that will indicate relation to this problem. In this directory I
have these files:

-rw-r--r-- 1 root news    1232 2007-03-03 16:56 news.crit
-rw-r--r-- 1 root news    6835 2007-03-03 18:31 news.err
-rw-r--r-- 1 root news 4858090 2007-03-18 09:00 news.info
-rw-r--r-- 1 root news   11511 2007-03-03 19:30 news.notice

news.crit news.err and news.notice has only some logs from the first time I
installed leafnode and fetchnews. Nothing related to this problem.

news.info has everything that fetchnews does. Only strange inside is this:

Mar 18 04:30:14 ubuntu fetchnews[3597]: store: hr.comp.mreze.bezicne: stale
water marks, trying to fix

It's not always on the same newsgroup. It's just like random.

And sometimes i see this:

Mar 18 03:00:01 ubuntu fetchnews[3474]: erased stale pid 3436 host
ubuntu.apartmani-cakelic.hr lockfile /var/spool/news/leaf.node/lock.file

everything else is perfectly normal, where fetchnews is fetching artices.

>> > Probably Thunderbird has older article numbers cached and after the
>> > reinstall, the new article numbers are much lower, so that Thunderbird
>> > thinks the server had higher articles expired without new articles
>> > arriving. Check the Thunderbird knowledgebase if there's something you
>> > can do about that; in doubt, you'll need to remove and re-add your
>> > newsserver.

>> I think that it does not anything to do with Thunderbird, because, the same
>> thing is also in Claws Mail client.

> ...and perhaps - could you check Claws logging if there's NNTP exchange?

Well, I have noticed this morning that Claws Mail has fetched some articles
from leafnode. I will see what happens during this day.

>> >> Also, in /var/log/news/news.info I see this:

>> >> Mar  3 20:00:03 ubuntu fetchnews[5280]: store: hr.comp.os.linux: stale water
>> >> marks, trying to fix

>> > This might be related and happens when the group.info file isn't
>> > accurate. Texpire should fix this.

>> The thing is, it only happens (thins whole problem) when fetchnews is run
>> from crontab (every 30 min). *But* when I run manually from Terminal:

>> "$ sudo fetchnews -vvvn"

>> then everything is OK, both Claws Mail and Thunderbird download new artices
>> from leafnode.

> Strange. Can you check the permissions on the news spool to make sure
> all files and directory are writable by the "news" user?

Ok, here is the listing of my /var/spool/news/ directory:

drwxr-s---    6 news news  4096 2007-03-08 17:32 alt
drwxrws---    2 news news  4096 2007-03-06 21:12 dormant.groups
drwxrws---    2 news news  4096 2007-03-06 21:12 failed.postings
drwxr-s---   13 news news  4096 2007-03-06 21:44 hr
drwxrws---    2 news news  4096 2007-03-10 16:36 in.coming
drwxrws---    2 news news  4096 2007-03-07 15:12 interesting.groups
drwxrws---    2 news news  4096 2007-03-18 09:00 leaf.node
drwxrws---    3 news news  4096 2007-03-10 14:43 local
drwxrws--- 1002 news news 12288 2007-03-07 15:05 message.id
drwxr-s---    3 news news  4096 2007-03-08 17:32 microsoft
drwxr-s---    7 news news  4096 2007-03-07 00:18 mozilla
drwxr-s---    3 news news  4096 2007-03-07 00:14 netscape
drwxrws---    2 news news  4096 2007-03-11 11:30 out.going
drwxr-s---    3 news news  4096 2007-03-08 17:32 rec
drwx--S---    2 news news  4096 2007-03-18 09:00 temp.files


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